Tuesday, August 22, 2006

More Suheir

" a woman will tell you
every home she has ever inhabited
has been broken into
starting with her body."








11 comments:

Dan Trabue said...

Hey, ange, be sure to check out Michael's great pacifism/just peacemaking writings over at his site:

http://www.anabaptist418.blogspot.com/

It's a wealth of information and excellent reasoning.

voixdange said...

Thanks Dan, I will.

Michael Westmoreland-White said...

Deep. Sad, too. No matter the culture, feminist poetry depresses me because I realize just how little progress on gender equality we've made in ANY culture. It is still dangerous to be born female. As the father of 2 daughters, I worry about that greatly.

voixdange said...

You have said a mouthful, my friend. Yes it is sad to say that being born a female in many parts of the world is still a death sentence. Thank you for visiting my blog and for commenting.

Monco said...

Holy cow. Do you believe this?

voixdange said...

Yes, I have no choice. Baby girls are still routinely poisoned and burried in Southern India. Baby girls are still abandoned in China, not to mention dowry deaths in India and honor killings in the Middle East.

jazztheo said...

I recently visited a couple of countries in Africa. I couln't believe how bad things were for women. College educated and still having to beg and sell themselves on the street.

In light of this, I'd really love to hear your heart on my most recent post if you have time.

Monco said...

I couldn't agree more with your response to my question. I just mistook your original post to be a broad brush of any and all women and their basic lot in life. Now...if that were true I'd be...I don't know what I'd be or think. I wouldn't believe it, that's for sure. Thanks again for your thoughtful post.

voixdange said...

I understand your reservation to believe that this is commonplace, but it happens so often to so many women - I know women, including myself who have been date raped more than once by different men, and these aren't the kind of women who give ment he wrong impression. I've taught young girls, six year olds, who have to run to the bathroom constantly because they were raped by an adult relative. If truth be told, I believe the real statistics would be staggering.

Monco said...

Oh, I do believe it is commonplace without a doubt in the current world at large and in the dubious history of our fine specious. That being said, many, if not most, women in our progressive, modern culture surely don’t see their “home” as being broken into exclusively as a function of being "known" in the biblical sense. Mutual respect and love and compassion would make that notion mute. If MOST women feel this way, say here in the U.S. (in other cultures where women are “masked” from head to toe there can be no doubt who rules the roost), then our world is to be pitied as wholly lost, without hope of betterment.

I tell you what though; the whole "woman be submissive to your husband" bit surely has led to much that you are decrying, no?? Religion broadly speaking, and specifically sacred texts, wonderments as they are in many respects, must be held accountable for often propagating an anti-woman mentality. The “religious” among us must be prepared to separate the wheat from the chaff, but sadly, most that passes for religion seems unwilling or unable to work toward this end in a way that maintains a certain fidelity to the original intent of the text while exorcising it, if I may say so, of ideas that frankly stink. It seems to be all or nothing for the conservatives or completely revisionist for the liberals. Basically, they leave us with an either/or proposition. The liberals make religion an entirely earthbound exercise and bereft of anything transcendent, and conservatives, frankly, makes slaves of their adherents. I know my last statements may border on caricature and stereotype, but it seems largely true from my observation at any rate.

jholder said...

"Religion broadly speaking, and specifically sacred texts, wonderments as they are in many respects, must be held accountable for often propagating an anti-woman mentality."

Only the ones that are anti-humanity in general can be said to be this way. They seeds of Satan are planted in ways that destroy both sexes in religions that could be said to enslave.

Submission isn't a problem if the man loves the woman as Christ loves His church -- nothing the man will do under such love would be a violation or enslavement. Only the perverted and anti-Christian influences of the world though the evil one can twist the true gospel in this way. If a man were really to love a woman as Christ loves the church, it would be a joy and relief to submit to him, as the man must also continually submit to Christ. The ideal is beautiful. The reality is that these beautiful ideas are often twisted and perverted by the sick, power-hungry and sinful in an attempt to undermine the beautiful ideal.